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Post by KellyM on Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:57 am

Ok, so for the last week and a half we have noticed the bedroom that we are using for a home gym room in the finished basement is starting to stink like mildew. We cannot find any wet spots anywhere on the rug or the walls. There is a wall panel for the basement bathroom pipes that allows you to see in the wall area behind one side of that room and I don't see or smell any mildew or mold from that area, so I can say it's not in the walls. The stink is coming from the carpet, as far as we can tell. I am thinking that the issue may be with the floor. We have had a lot of rain lately so that might be a factor. But of course there are other things that always make yo question things. When we were in the process of buying the home, we had a home inspection done, there weren't any major issues found. During the process of purchasing the home, we had to get home insurance. A week or so after we moved in, our home insurance company contacted my husband and asked him what the previous "water claim" that was made by the previous owner in 2008 was all about. We told them that we didn't know, that there was nothing in the disclosure about anything and that we were not made aware of any issues. We told them that they would have to contact the Realtor handling the sale and she would have to speak with the previous owner. We never heard back from our insurance company and left it at that. So in my mind I am wondering if that might be a part of the problem. Did the previous owner have a problem down there too, make a claim and bandage it just enough to sell the house without fixing the real problem? I know the smell is recent, but since the room in the basement was redone by the previous owner it was in the fall/winter months where the air is dry and cold. If there was a previous issue that was covered up, now that it's warm, humid and damp maybe it started all over again. Or it may just be a fluke and this is a new problem unique to us.
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Post by KellyM on Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:01 pm

I should add that I e-mailed the inspector who performed the home inspection to let him know the issue and ask him what steps he thinks I should take next. I have spoken with several people I know this morning and most of them think we just need a dehumidifier and that should take care of the problem.
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Post by edbson on Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:11 pm

I would find out what the oriogianl issue was with the previous owners. Not sure about laws there, but MIL had an issue with floor tiles coming up, ceramic tiles. After some research we found that her house had flooded during a TS, and the people had just cleaned the obvious damage, and not disclosed it. She got alot of money for repairs, and from the insurance co., anough to fix it right.

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Post by KellyM on Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:42 pm

I do plan on calling the realtor and have her check with the previous owner and find out what the "water claim" was. But if it has nothing to do with our issue then I am thinking it's recent. We have never had a home with a finished basement, most people say that it's almost a necessary thing to have a dehumidifier in a finished basement. So maybe the problem lies in the fact that we didn't have one and there isn't sufficient air flow down there and maybe by not doing anything we caused the problem.
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Post by agaphmou on Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:44 pm

Was this carpeting there before you moved in? maybe the padding under the carpeting is moldy
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Post by KellyM on Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:47 pm

The carpet was there when we moved in, but it was newly installed when the home was put up for sale. The house had been up for sale about a year when we purchased it.
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Post by agaphmou on Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:50 pm

hmmmmm ,very strange!
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Post by Lori on Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:00 pm

Is there a sump pump in the basement? Is it turning on a lot more often? It has been really rainy and wet here this spring, and ours runs a lot. Are the pipes dripping with condensation or are they insulated or wrapped? It doesn't sound like anything major to me right now.

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Post by edbson on Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:08 pm

I would get a dehumidifier, we have one, and for $80 or so it works well. We got it at home depot.

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Post by chelle on Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:56 pm

I would keep checking into it. and if its in the walls, carpet, floors, etc. DONT just 'hope its okay' and cover up the smell. Mold is very dangerous. My house got it froma flooded hot water heater, and they wanted to practically tear it downa nd redo it.

We did remove all extra's (carpet, tile, some wall coverings, replace some 2X4's, but most of our actual house base was rich liter pine, which basicly means it was petrified wood, so it didnt absorb the mold or water so it was good) then we sprayed it with clorox and were able to get it safe to live in again.


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Post by Rebecca1340 on Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:14 pm

Definately get a dehumidifier. Basements just need that extra bit of help. I would also think you could have a case if they didn't disclose any problems with the basement before you bought unless it was a one time thing like the washer leaking and causing damage.

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Post by KellyM on Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:30 pm

The concrete floor in the room next to the finished room shows no moisture or wetness at all, nor do any of the rooms down there. There isn't a sump pump in the basement, there again there have never been any issues with water in the basment that we know of. Our street is on an incline and we are at the top. So water doesn't settle on our property. You'd think if there were problems bad enough for a sump pump that the carpet would be damp/wet, or that they never would have put carpet in there and would have had a sump pump in the basement.
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Post by KellyM on Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:32 pm

Chelle, we are going to try the dehumidifier and see if that takes care of the problem. If the dehumidifier starts producing results and I see that it's filling with water but the smell is still there I will try cleaning the rug and drying it with fans. If the smell persists then we will have to pull up the carpet to see if there is anything going on underneath.
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Post by Lori on Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:41 pm

We've always had a sump pump in the basement of every house we've ever lived in. It's nice to know it's there for when you do need it. It sounds like normal mustiness that a dehumidifier can handle. If you have a sump pump, you can drain the dehumidifier right to the pump so you never have to empty it.

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Post by edbson on Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:43 pm

Ours can be hooked to a water hose, and drained in a sink or toilet, or whatever. it hold 3 gallons of water, and works super fast

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Post by KellyM on Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:47 pm

Kris went to Lowes and Sears after work. Sears had a larger selection. We unded up going with a Kenmore 70 pint dehumidifier, it was $300. We've had it plugged in since after dinner and there is noticeable water in there already..
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Post by edbson on Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:53 pm

Wow, that must be a fancy one! Ours is 3 gallons, and all electronic and was only $80 at Home Depot....I wouldn't want to lug a 70 pint bucket out to dump it.

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Post by KellyM on Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:46 am

It has wheels on the bottom and a handle near the top, I can just wheel it to the basement bathroom which is the next room over and it has a pump and hose attachment so I can pump it into the sink, toilet, whatever.
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Post by KellyM on Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:48 am

this is the link to the one we ended up buying
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_04290701000P?prdNo=3&blockNo=3&blockType=
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Post by Lori on Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:57 am

I'd expect to pay similar for a good dehumidifier on short notice. We just don't have big box stores to comparison shop between. A basement is usually equivalent to the first floor footprint, which is a lot of square feet to try to dry out. And in a basement, which is below grade, you need one that won't freeze up in the winter. We do have heat in the basement but dial it down pretty low. The more it holds, the better. They shut off when they fill up unless you have it draining into a sump pump, sink, or whatever. They fill up way too fast in the spring after the snow melts and it all seeps into the ground. And quiet is good, since it sounds like you use the basement a lot. You just have weigh out all the features and try to choose wisely.

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Post by KellyM on Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:26 am

This one has a little portable monitor that you can bring upstairs, it tells you if the machine is running and what settings it's running at. It also tells you if the bucket needs emptying, it has a little alarm you can choose to have come on telling you when the bucket is full.
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Post by edbson on Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:18 am

I want a basement

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Post by Lori on Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:25 am

edbson wrote:I want a basement
I don't know, Erin, sometimes I like the extra space (we have a pool table down there), but some days I just see it as another point of entry for vermin and a space for them to hide out. And even though you swear it won't happen, eventually it gets filled with stuff that you think you may need "one day". The kids are worse than me. Miscellaneous boxes of stuff get put down there that I know they'll never go through.

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Post by edbson on Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:31 am

I could use the storage, and it would be a place for guest and junk.....but here it would be an indoor swimming pool. NO amount of waterproofing would keep the water out.....well, actually. I know someone who had a tornado shelter, it is a giant Stainless box in the ground with a door.....doesn't get water in it..but I am not paying that much for a glorified closet.

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Post by chelle on Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:49 am

I just want a cellar. To put my taters in, and my canned stuff. maybe a wooden box for my salt pork.

I dread trying to find room for at least 2 hogs and a cow. plus all the garden stuff. (which is dying and Iwont get much out of)

I might salt some of the hog, that will keep it out of the freezers. But I literly dont have room for another freezer. Just no way no how...

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